Creating PhrenD: A Revolutionary App for Cognitive Health w/ Dr. Lauren Flaherty

In this engaging conversation, Dr. Lauren Flaherty, a neuropsychologist, shares her insights on the intersection of mental health and brain health. She discusses her journey to becoming a neuropsychologist, the complexities of assessing cognitive functioning, and the impact of stress on memory. 

Additionally, she introduces her innovative mobile app, PhrenD, designed to support individuals experiencing cognitive impairment and their caregivers. In this conversation, Dr. Flaherty discusses her journey in creating a treatment manual and the challenges of translating it into an app. She emphasizes the importance of empathy in communicating with patients, especially those experiencing cognitive differences. 

Dr. Flaherty shares insights on maintaining work-life balance, recognizing signs of burnout, and the significance of community engagement in healthcare. She concludes with a profound understanding of mental health, highlighting the interconnectedness of the mind, spirit, and soul.

 The dialogue explores personal relationships and the challenges of psychoanalysis within them, as well as the strategic nature of tennis and the impact of video games on family dynamics. Cultural reflections are drawn from the series 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer,' highlighting its significance during formative years. 

The conversation also delves into self-care practices, the healing power of music frequencies, and the stereotypes surrounding medical professionals, ultimately revealing the evolving landscape of healthcare and the importance of mental well-being. In this conversation, Dr. Flaherty discusses skepticism regarding medical advancements, particularly in the context of long-term studies. 

The discussion shifts to personal favorites in superheroes, revealing insights into character values. The conversation then explores the perception of time and its changes, especially in relation to significant life events. Dr. Flaherty elaborates on brain function, memory storage, and cognitive development, emphasizing the brain's complexity and the impact of lifestyle on cognitive health. 

The dialogue concludes with a cultural connection to community events, specifically the Greek Fest, highlighting the importance of cultural heritage and community engagement.

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Chapters

• 6:20 Nueropyschology Explained
• 10:20 Hollywood's Interpretation of The Medical Field
• 13:23 Normal Forgetfulness vs. Cognitive Impairment (CI)
• 18:40 Our Words & Their Effects
• 21:05 God AND Science
• 24:25 Our Words & Their Effects Pt. 2
• 27:18 PhrenD!!!!! Download Now!
• 35:31 How Do I Talk To My Aging....?
• 40:36 Work-Life Balance
• 44:20 Dr. Flaherty's WHY
• 48:06 YOUR Q's Feat. Dr Flaherty
• 53:47 Dr. Lauren, The CI Slayer
• 1:00:21 Conspiracy Corner: Sonic Resonance?!
• 1:01:25 Medical Stereotypes: True or False Edition
• 1:09:05 Top 5 Superheroes
• 1:13:47 I'm 32, Am I In My "Mental Prime?"
• 1:17:03 Greekfest 2025

Transcript

Marcus (00:01.678)
All righty, we're back with another iteration of the podcast. We have co-host, Padra Shad, Miggy Marcus. They're joining the ICAST. we have, I got to give her, I have to give her an intro. I have a special guest before we dive into a conversation that blends on science, compassion, and a little bit of pop culture. We're joined by Dr. Lauren Flaherty.

A neuropsychologist with a deep and diverse background in clinical psychology, bioethics, and neuropsychological assessment. With degrees from the University of Louisville and affiliations with organizations like the American Psychological Society and the Society for Neuroscience, Dr. Flattery brings both academic depth and practical experience to her work. She specializes in treating a wide range of concerns from anxiety and trauma to learning disorders and memory impairment across all ages. Beyond the clinic,

She's a published researcher, international speaker, and active community member. And when she's not working, she's loving on her four kids, flicking four hands across the tennis court and slaying with Buffy the vampire.

Dr. Flaherty (01:12.578)
you

Marcus (01:13.634)
But wait, there's more. Her and her team created the FriendD mobile app, designed to support individuals experiencing cognitive impairment, known as CI, as well as their caregivers, healthcare professionals, and family members. Available in an app store near you, FriendD combines mind exercises, information tracking, and assessment tools to help manage and potentially slow or reverse the progression of CI. The name FriendD blends the Greek word for brain, friend, with the concept of a friend.

symbolizing the app's goal to be a supportive companion in brain health. The capital D emphasizes the app's medical connection. And with all that being said, join me in welcoming Dr. Lauren Flared.

Dr. Flaherty (01:58.914)
Yay, thank you for having me. That's a hell of an introduction, geez.

Marcus (02:01.366)
Yes, yes, we have to give you, we call it a club shay-shay if you ever watch Shannon's show. He always loves to give a long, you know, but we have to come on now for your time and all you do for your work for the community. No, you don't.

POD RASHID (02:13.958)
Yeah.

POD RASHID (02:19.12)
We appreciate you being on.

Marcus (02:21.719)
Thank you, thank you.

Dr. Flaherty (02:22.562)
Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you.

Marcus (02:24.462)
Yes, yes. I guess before we get into it, you know, all that extensive, that whole extensive intro we gave. So the most important question, I'm sure what everyone wants to know, born and raised here, what high school did you go to? Come on.

Dr. Flaherty (02:43.426)
Ballard actually so I started I went to my cat is about to knock over that lamp I went to KCD. Do you guys know what KCD is? Okay, so I went there until eighth grade and the plan was always for me to graduate there But it was the same, know, it was the same 50 people that I had

Marcus (02:54.604)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

POD RASHID (02:54.671)
Yes.

Dr. Flaherty (03:09.11)
been to school since like first grade. So I wanted to go somewhere else. I actually did my freshman year at Assumption High School, Catholic, all girls, and quickly realized that was not where I wanted to spend all of my high school time. So I actually went to Ballard. I graduated from Ballard.

POD RASHID (03:30.478)
All right. That's where I went to see the ballot letter, letters up there. have to represent. So.

Dr. Flaherty (03:32.578)
Yeah.

Marcus (03:32.717)
So you.

Marcus (03:39.497)
we like to say you know what's brewing big bees I went to Manure of course but my sister went to Ballard too so Ballard connection everywhere and of course the second question UK or UofL?

POD RASHID (03:42.298)
Big B's.

Dr. Flaherty (03:42.83)
man.

POD RASHID (03:47.451)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (03:47.52)
Yeah, for sure.

Dr. Flaherty (03:53.378)
Come on, like, we're... Okay, so we're gonna be divisive.

This is tough because I actually come from a family that's that's divided my my dad went to UK my mom went but then they both ended up at UofL then my brother went to UK for undergrad and then UofL for dental school my sister ended up at UK for medical school I'm all over it so here's my here's my thing UofL made me a doctor so UofL first

POD RASHID (04:01.946)
guys.

Marcus (04:09.365)
Ahem.

Dr. Flaherty (04:25.302)
But if they're not in question, if they're not involved, then I will root for UK.

POD RASHID (04:25.466)
right.

Marcus (04:25.59)
Okay.

Marcus (04:32.896)
Okay.

POD RASHID (04:34.146)
understandable.

Marcus (04:35.328)
Yeah, I guess me and Rashad are divided. got blue.

POD RASHID (04:39.65)
Hehehehe

Marcus (04:40.97)
Don't worry. Now, where was your dream job growing up? Besides being, you know, a vampire slave.

Dr. Flaherty (04:48.674)
actually this. Okay, listen, that show like I know it's the 90s were I don't you guys are probably a little bit too young, but the 90s were awesome. That show made a huge impact on who I am. But what I'm doing now is actually what I like, you know, I dreamed dreamt of doing when I was like 10 or 11. And

POD RASHID (04:51.952)
Thank

Dr. Flaherty (05:16.482)
I don't know where it came from. think, you know what? I was watching, have you guys ever seen the movie Silence of the Lambs?

Marcus (05:23.659)
Yeah, without Jodie.

POD RASHID (05:24.88)
Yes.

Dr. Flaherty (05:27.112)
Okay, so I should not have been watching that, but I was watching that around that age and I was just enthralled. And then from then on, I started reading things and watching movies that were in the same vein, like Girl Interrupted, anything with Angelina Jolie, anything that had to do with atypical, you know, brain.

processes. And so that's what I wanted to do when I was a kid, but I talked myself out of it probably five times throughout my education. So I mean, I'm, I think it's pretty cool. I actually ended up, you know, finally doing it. I talked myself into everything else other than this, but here I am.

Marcus (06:16.812)
It's to be though. meant to be.

Dr. Flaherty (06:19.372)
Yep.

POD RASHID (06:21.456)
It's always, I'm sorry, always a good feeling though to be able to do what you really have a passion for. Like it makes things a lot easier. you know, not many people get to end up doing what they wanted to as a kid.

Marcus (06:34.399)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (06:37.91)
Definitely. Yeah, I'm very grateful for it. So those like bad days that everybody has at work where you know, you're just like overstimulated exhausted, you know, why am I doing this? I have very few of those because I mean, I get really tired, obviously, but the why am I doing this doesn't really happen as much, you know, because it's like intrinsic. I know exactly why I'm doing this. So I and I understand that the majority of

the global population will never really have that same opportunity. So I definitely consider myself to be very, very blessed in that area.

Marcus (07:18.867)
That's a good answer. For those who aren't familiar with neuropsychology, how would you explain that at a dinner party?

Dr. Flaherty (07:28.178)
my gosh, I've had to do it a lot because sometimes, you know, everybody, one of the first things that you do when you meet people, right, is, what do you do? That's always the first question. And then when I say clinical neuropsychology, you know, most people are like,

POD RASHID (07:31.493)
Yeah

POD RASHID (07:35.534)
Right.

Marcus (07:35.561)
Yes.

Marcus (07:39.914)
You

Dr. Flaherty (07:44.746)
You know, what is that? And so I have to explain it a lot. And so I would the best way I can explain it is the way that you would envision the field of psychology, right, mental health. And then you take neurology, which is brain disorder, brain health, and you combine that you combine the two. It's a really cool intersection. And that's, you know, that is the best way. So in real life, what it looks like is, I mean, there's actually a

a really good continuum of patients that I see. I mean, I could see anybody from, you know, the very common anxiety, trauma, depression, all the way to the more rare, like multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, ataxia, you know, the rare stuff, some genetic things going on, people that maybe were exposed to toxins and utero, things like that.

So, I mean, it really does vary, but anything that has to do with the brain or the mind is kind of how I describe it.

Marcus (08:54.299)
Okay. Now, are you at a private practice or hospital? How does that differ like in work?

POD RASHID (08:54.373)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (09:01.226)
Yeah.

they're so different. I've worked in almost every environment. So obviously for a university, I've worked in a hospital, I've done I work I did my internship at the VA, which is a world of its own. academia, yeah, university. And then right now I'm in private practice. And it's very, it's just very different. It's an eat what you kill kind of thing. So like keeping really

good note taking being very, meticulous. But also like there's an element of sales to it too, in private practice, because it is, you know, private, it's a private sector. So you have to really work on that mark, you have to hone in on that marketing and that sales and kind of like, sometimes, you know, a lot of times when people get to me, I don't have to do any pitching because they've been through, they've been through the mill and they're, they're willing to do whatever, you know, but

Marcus (09:42.474)
What? What?

Dr. Flaherty (10:01.346)
Sometimes people need a little bit of convincing on why they need to invest in that particular service if it's out of pocket at all or whatever. you work at a university, that's not an issue. That's all. You can work less, honestly, and it's much more relaxed. You can focus on research. Private practice is a business.

Marcus (10:31.594)
You're talking about you see such a wide range of people. there, I guess how do you assess like the cognitive functioning of patients or like what tools or methods do you, would you use considering it is such a wide range of possibilities or scenarios? I'll ask it again.

Dr. Flaherty (10:45.949)
Marcus you froze.

POD RASHID (10:53.316)
You froze for a moment,

Dr. Flaherty (10:56.288)
You froze for a second. So how do I assess cognitive function? That's the thing I heard.

Marcus (11:01.353)
Like the like what tools or methods do you use like since it's such a wide range like how do you know like where to go to?

Dr. Flaherty (11:11.638)
Yeah, that's a huge part of the training actually. it's usually a three step process. So the first step is a person comes in and completes an intake. That's what we call it. And that's like gathering really extensive history, psych history.

Marcus (11:12.38)
First step.

Dr. Flaherty (11:28.766)
medical history, social history, education, family, environmental, developmental, everything. And then, you know, and we also get an idea of what the symptoms are. What are the complaints? What are you noticing? What's the timeline? How severe? What are other people saying? Let me see your doctor's records, you know. And then based on that, we use our own clinical judgment and training to put together an assessment that is just for them.

based on their age, based on their history, based on the question at hand, like what are we even trying to answer here? And so every person that looks different. so everything we do is based on evidence. So one tool may not be useful for somebody that's say 32, it may not be valid for somebody that's 15 or somebody that's 89.

You have to use different tools. So it really all is dependent upon that personal information and that history.

Marcus (12:34.152)
That's wild. That's wild. So like, I guess in that vein, neuro-imaging scanning is a part, I'm guessing that's part of it. So when you watch a movie and someone, look, this is perfect. You watch a movie, are you looking at the neuro-imaging scan and seeing if it matches up with the diagnosis that they're explaining in the movie? All right, are able to see?

Dr. Flaherty (13:00.556)
Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes and I find that movies Okay, so there was a what was it called? There was this a really it was a really good one. So most shows like TV shows and series are just garbage when it comes to accuracy. so I don't even bother looking if we're watching like a Grey's Anatomy or whatever. It's all entertainment and it's just not accurate. Like that stuff is not how it would happen. But when it's a movie, it's a little bit different.

Marcus (13:21.814)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (13:30.274)
because they bring in experts, you know, and that's obvious like the movie that two hours is all you're going to see. Whereas a series there's like eight seasons, right? So but they'll bring in experts and there was this one movie. Oh my gosh, it was on Netflix. I can't remember what it was called. It was something about the brain. It was essentially this young girl.

POD RASHID (13:34.223)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (13:57.526)
And I found it to be very accurate and very interesting Was perfectly healthy. She had a cold as far as anybody knew just normal like sniffle and flu symptoms and then after that She started developing a lot of personality changes She started hearing auditory, you know or hearing things that weren't there she had all kinds of

on symptoms that popped up out of nowhere and she was passed from every doc and it was based on a true story. I can't so it was on Netflix. It's annoying me that I can't figure out which what it was. It was based on a true story and she I mean, it's probably like a year's worth of a process for her. And during the very beginning.

Marcus (14:33.754)
Mmm, okay.

Dr. Flaherty (14:50.634)
when she started developing the first symptoms, I called it. was like, I know what it is, I know what it is. It's the rare, I mean, it's a very rare thing, but it's basically like, whenever we catch a virus, it's possible, depending on your body's immune reaction, that you can develop encephalopathy and you can develop all kinds of issues because of the immune swelling that can occur.

and so that I was like, it's got to be tagged to that virus. had it must be it must be, but nobody else was thinking about it. And they actually played it out pretty accurately in that movie. And I thought it was I thought it was well done. And interesting. And I thought it would be very educational for anybody in healthcare. As far as I mean, she was diagnosed with like schizophrenia, bipolar, like everything in the

book and nobody had even considered this other physiological reason.

POD RASHID (15:53.72)
Is it called Brain on Fire?

Dr. Flaherty (15:55.638)
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's it. It's good. yeah, that's it. And I wanted my whole family to watch it with me. But you know, not everybody's as interested in the brain as I am. But I thought it was I thought it was a good depiction for most most of the time, though. I mean, most of the TV portrayals are not good.

Marcus (16:21.146)
That's what I commonly hear from people in the medical field. So it wouldn't surprise me that you're on that side of the tracks when comes to that. I think this question's from my wife. What's the difference between normal forgetfulness and, for those of us who misplace our keys daily, is what she wanted to say. What's the difference between normal forgetfulness and patterns that may show difference in our, maybe cognitive impairment is the word.

Dr. Flaherty (16:28.162)
Yeah.

Marcus (16:51.226)
but.

Dr. Flaherty (16:51.68)
Yeah, okay, so memory is impacted by a lot of things. Memory is actually a really complicated process. It's not as simple as, it's just like, can you recall it or not? It's complicated. I describe it as like a file cabinet to patients. So the memory itself is the file, but whether or not you're able to open up the drawer and...

Marcus (16:59.077)
Okay.

Marcus (17:09.743)
Hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (17:18.056)
Withdrawal the correct file is a different process. That's more of a frontal executive process If the file is not in there at all then that's more temporal and that's like what you would see with Alzheimer's and stuff so even if you like so if I give you a list of words and Then I say, you know in in 15 minutes give them all back to me free recall That's one thing and if you can't get them all

What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you a list of like multiple choice and say which one of these was on the list that I gave you. If you can recognize them and you say, that's right, that's where, that means that the file is in there. You just weren't able to pull it out. That's more of a frontal thing, which is usually more to do with attention. So if you're not paying attention to something, you're not gonna log it into memory.

And it also has to do a lot with stress levels. So I have a lot of people that ask about ADHD and what they end up getting diagnosed with more than anything is actually like, you know, problematic anxiety. And they say, well, how can that mess with my memory and attention? I don't understand. And, you know, I put it like this. I'm like, okay, it would be like me putting you in a cage with a tiger, a hungry tiger, and you have no weapons, right?

and I'm standing outside of the cage and I'm saying, do your multiplication tables. Give me the state's capitals. You're not gonna be able to do it. And it's not because the capacity isn't there, it's because your brain has determined at that point, the only thing that matters that is relevant is that tiger and getting out of there. And so like in everyday life, we're not gonna come across a tiger.

Marcus (19:01.6)
okay. Wow.

Dr. Flaherty (19:08.79)
But we will come across like social and financial threats and that kind of ignites the same, the same area of the brain. So if there's chronic stress and chronic stress hormones, that your attention is disrupted and you're not gonna log things the same way. You're gonna log what's relevant to your brain at the time. As far as like,

Problematic pathological forgetting, you know, there's normal aging differences that happen Your memory is not gonna be the same at 50 as it was at 20 It's just not your your brain your cognitive peak is like 30 30 to 33 after that, you know So you guys are right there at the peak. I'm on the downhill

Marcus (19:42.766)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (19:52.681)
okay.

Dr. Flaherty (20:02.124)
But so like there's normal aging differences that are going to happen. The question is, is your functioning beyond what we would expect for someone your age with your education? And if so, then that's something that we have to look further into and see why.

POD RASHID (20:23.878)
Interesting.

Marcus (20:28.707)
Since you've dedicated your life, basically, half your life to understanding the brain, more than half your life probably, has that changed the way you think about identity or like even yourself? Like, you know.

Dr. Flaherty (20:44.994)
Hmm, that's a good question. The way I think about myself, I don't know.

Marcus (20:49.153)
Or do you psycho-evaluate yourselves?

Dr. Flaherty (20:52.537)
yeah. my gosh. Yes. My self talk is like out loud. mean,

Marcus (20:54.69)
Okay.

Marcus (20:59.402)
You

Dr. Flaherty (21:01.238)
like audible conversations and lessons to myself. I'm probably a lot harder on myself than I should be. I don't extend the same grace that I would extend to others, but it has changed the way that I parent. It has changed the way that I see others and forgive others. And...

It actually just helps me understand people better. So I'm less likely to, you know, execute judgment and more likely to kind of execute empathy and kind of understand why I think the why ever since I was a kid, the only thing I've ever wanted to know about anything ever is why and when I understand the why it kind of just takes away the

like, I don't know, whatever negative feelings there might've been. And then with parenting, it's totally different because you realize these little humans, these little brains are like your putty and they're so plastic and you can build a president or you can build a prisoner, you know? like you...

Not everybody, obviously that's hyperbole. Not everybody has the bandwidth to be a president or whatever. the, my cat's here. The point is the same. Is that the way that we parent, the way we talk to our kids, it becomes their inner voice. Like the way that I talk to myself out loud is a representation of how I...

how I view and conceptualize love and discipline. And my kids will do the same. like if I'm, if every time my kid messes up and I'm like, God, do you not have eyes? Are you stupid? Blah, blah, blah. That will become what they say to themselves. And you know, when we talk to ourselves a certain way, this is less scientific, although there's definitely research to back it up.

Dr. Flaherty (23:19.018)
I published a paper that your words are predictive of your own outcomes, like your future. So, still scientific. But the way that we speak about ourselves, the way that we speak in general enhances the likelihood of those actual outcomes occurring. So, yeah, I mean, I try to...

POD RASHID (23:38.777)
interesting.

Dr. Flaherty (23:41.546)
I try to be, you know, execute that when I'm with other people. Not everybody's like me. Not everybody thinks the same as I do, but I'll tell you this much. It's been really, really useful in business. On the business side of things. It's been probably my greatest ally.

Marcus (24:01.281)
Okay, that's, I don't know, I love that answer, for real, I'm not gonna lie. That's the way me and him think we talk about fear-based parenting, avoiding that, how does, you know, we've talked about all these things before, but you just put it basically right in front of us of, you know, and these are things as a father that I'm learning about myself, about how I communicate with my children, maybe where that stems from, you know.

Dr. Flaherty (24:21.068)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (24:31.392)
you know cleaning that out and like you said like giving them always the best you know I don't know not the best of me but you know but that's everything you said is that's on par I love that answer am I gonna lie?

POD RASHID (24:48.332)
and I have a quick question about more so the answer you gave. So do you believe that like, this isn't really scientific, I would say, but like how you speak to yourself on inside builds your world outside. kind of said it in a different way, but like, do you believe it in that way? Like basically almost

the universe will react to you how you react back to it. Like I said, I know that's not scientific, but I don't know if you believe in that type of thing at all.

Dr. Flaherty (25:27.05)
I do. mean, so I mean, just full disclosure, I'm an orthodox Christian, I'm Greek orthodox, so I do. And science is honestly, for me, the biggest measuring stick of faith for me. And what I mean by that is the more science I learned, the more I realized that it's proving

POD RASHID (25:34.724)
Okay.

Marcus (25:34.752)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (25:50.302)
every everything that I believe to actually be true. They don't a lot of people think about faith and science as being like mutually exclusive and one disproves the other. I don't see it that way at all. Like I see the the fact that like if you look at the story of Genesis, and you actually look at the geological ages that occurred throughout creation. I mean, it's it's like hand in hand. So

A lot of the science that I consume or ever produce actually just further backs it up. But scientifically speaking, so there was something called a nun study and they had young nuns. mean very young, young adults, 18 and so on. And they were to write a short little narrative about themselves, about life, about whatever, right?

So they did, and then they analyzed each person's, each nun's word type usage using a linguistics program. I've actually used a linguistics program before and it's awesome. And so they analyzed the words, are the words present focused? Are they past focused? Are they future focused? Are they more negative? Are they this and that, right? And...

Then they looked at these young ladies, they followed their outcomes until old age. And what they found running it through the linguistics program is that their word usage, the type of words they used was actually a good significant predictor of whether or not they were going to develop dementia. So yeah, so like,

Marcus (27:32.881)
Whoa.

Dr. Flaherty (27:37.146)
If that happen, if that's true, logically that would lend itself to someone, you know, like me asking, well, if that's the case, then maybe that's true for other things too. And it is. So the words that people use when writing a monologue or even just like recording, like in therapy sessions or whatnot, if they get permission to be recorded, the words that people use are heavily associated.

There's two different statistical analyses that can be used. You can use correlation, which people could easily say correlation is not causation, which is true. Or you can use logistic regression, which is predictive. And both ways, those words were not only correlated, but also predictive of outcomes, health outcomes, longevity outcomes, psychological outcomes. So, yes.

Marcus (28:12.605)
Mm-hmm. Bye.

Dr. Flaherty (28:32.712)
I very much do believe in that and I also believe in the science behind, I'm trying to figure out how to word this so it doesn't sound like hokey pokey. I mean, I have 200 manuscripts behind me that shows the century of science, but actually government patented manuscripts that studies the science over the past century of frequencies and words have them.

We know that sound right like the same way if I turn up a sound high enough frequency I can shatter that window in front of me Well, the same can be said for a cancer cell the same can be said for emotions the same can be said for anything and So, you know, I there's some pretty cool like quantum Technology machinery that uses that kind of stuff to correct those things and I've been studying that a lot lately and the more I study that

If you have a moment say that something bad happens to you during the day like you ever notice that the only time that your Pockets get caught on the doorknobs or when you're in a bad freaking mood

POD RASHID (29:44.303)
Yup.

Marcus (29:44.893)
Yeah, like in a rush or like, you know, something like that, yes.

Dr. Flaherty (29:49.274)
Yeah, when you're already like this day is gonna suck and it's like, it's like God snatches you and he's like, what'd you say? But the thing is when something bad happens to you, there was an article I read that basically said you've got 17 to 19 seconds to get out of that mindset. And if you do not, you will be sort of resonating at a certain frequency and it will attract the same

resonance throughout the day. So even if you don't believe it, so say I get in a traffic jam, right or something, something very annoying. If I even though I know that I'm irritated, overstimulated, mad, frustrated, right? I still have to, it's my responsibility to get out of it. So I still have to say something that is the opposite of what I actually want to say, whether I believe it or not, say it.

Marcus (30:20.21)
Dr. Flaherty (30:48.874)
you know, and say it over and over and over until it actually comes true because you've got a very short amount of time. If you don't, then it's not just gonna be that traffic jam. It's also gonna be you got home and the baby bumped their head on the table. Now you got to go to the ER and then it's gonna be, I can't pay this bill. Like it's just, it's just the way that it works. So that was a long winded answer and I'm sorry. Sorry.

Marcus (31:13.914)
No, You'll have like the corner of like for us like metaphysics and like yeah we starting to get I like that.

POD RASHID (31:14.705)
We loved it. We loved it.

POD RASHID (31:23.568)
We like hearing the hoagie poking. I don't necessarily believe everything, but I at least like to hear it.

Dr. Flaherty (31:29.388)
Yeah. Don't lose everything. Some of it's garbage.

Marcus (31:30.682)
No. Yeah. Yeah.

POD RASHID (31:33.326)
Right, right, some of it is. I just, I like hearing new ideas and the way people think sometimes it's interesting.

Marcus (31:40.412)
And these are all beliefs, these are all things that, you I believe. Know what you're saying. I believe in, like, yeah. Yeah. Power of words, frequencies.

POD RASHID (31:45.892)
What you were talking about specifically.

Dr. Flaherty (31:48.674)
Yeah, I don't come to conclusions like easily. So if I believe something, it's because like I said, I'm scientifically minded. You know, I kind of think like a lawyer and a scientist, if the evidence isn't there, then I'm not going to just like invest, you know, what do I look like doing that? I'm not doing that. But what that means is if I've come to a conclusion, it means that there's been a significant amount of evidence that is enough.

Marcus (31:53.278)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (32:18.711)
Beyond a reasonable doubt, you know to err on the side of of that. So yeah

Marcus (32:25.949)
Yeah, I'm with you. That's cool. Now, I know we keep it rolling. Now, Friend D app. What inspired you to even step out and create the app?

Dr. Flaherty (32:33.974)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (32:47.17)
So I actually developed a treatment manual because during training there was a sort of assignment or challenge or whatever to find a gap in the research and to attempt to close it. And so I picked cognitive impairment because our future as a society looks really grim with regards to Alzheimer's and things like that. I mean, it's getting worse. And there is no real treatment that is fully established.

That was my challenge. And so I developed a treatment manual and it was like 49 pages long. And then I just kind of put it aside. And then I got in, you know, out of training and into practice and I had friends, I had family of friends, I had family of mine, extended family. I mean, just a lot of people asking for help over and over and over. And my waiting list is already like six months because there's just not enough providers.

and the need is so great ever since COVID. So it's like, I'm only one person. There's only so much I can do. So I thought about publishing the manual so I could get it out to people. But then I'm like, I don't know who's going to walk into a Barnes and Noble who's suffering from impairment and like, no to go to that. I don't know. But I said, you know, everybody has a phone. And so, you know, I just, I decided to condense it and put it into an app version because I just think it would reach more people.

then I would be able to physically reach. I surround myself with a team of people who are better than me at a lot of different things. I think that's the key to any successful business is recognizing your limits, stay in your lane. And I know my lane, I know my scope. And so getting people who are smarter and better at other things is important.

And I wanted to make it user friendly and I wanted to make it something that could be used not just by patients but also by family members. So if you have a parent that is not able to drive anymore or you're noticing differences and you want to know what to do, it's for you. If you're a provider or a doctor or a nurse practitioner and you have a ton of patients coming in, you don't know what to do. It's for you.

Dr. Flaherty (35:04.542)
If you're the patient yourself and you realize that you've lost your keys three times in the same week, it's for you. And if you've got a kid that has autism or severe trauma after a sexual assault or a brain injury, a car accident, and you want to do something for your kid, it's for you. I wanted something that could kind of cross all of those different roles.

and be user friendly for all of them. And I think this app does a really good job of that. And I look at people as whole humans, not like a disease process. You're not autism, right? You're Joe who might be experiencing autism. You have a whole past, you have a bloodline, you have genetics, have emotions, you have desires, you have goals, you have all that stuff.

So this is like a very multi-dimensional integrative app that combines the spiritual, the emotional, mental, psychological, and very much the physiological because there's a huge component of just taking care of your body and your brain, you know, as well as doing cognitive exercises and tracking your progress over time.

Marcus (36:23.982)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (36:32.168)
It matches each person to their individual skill level because not everybody's the same, right? It's able to recognize where you're at and track it. You'll know your weaknesses and your strengths over a six-month period. So when you go to your doctor, you could say, hey, I've got this or I can tell I'm getting better here. That gives a lot of information for neurologists, neuropsychologists,

And there's also like the social component that I added in there as well, because I think we saw in 2020 that, you know, with isolation, just, just everything that everybody already had just got 10 times worse because isolation is horrible for the human brain. so it really, I tried to like encapsulate the entire human experience in that app and make it, user friendly for any role that you might be in.

And I put out a second version that really focuses on like gut health, insulin resistance being the cause of a lot of inflammation and disease. And then that quantum frequency machinery that I was just talking about, I'm gonna be purchasing and investing in that here in about two or three months.

and I plan to offer that as something I do on the side, but I talk about it on the second version as well.

Marcus (37:59.588)
one.

Dr. Flaherty (37:59.626)
I don't think you're gonna find that in other apps. don't I don't think I think that that's still something it's FDA approved, but

Marcus (38:04.026)
Second version. you said the second version, so you have something else coming out? do I have the first one?

Dr. Flaherty (38:12.994)
There's two versions. So the one that's out now is the second version. I kind of perfected it and added the stuff about gut health and frequency therapy, because there's quantum biofeedback frequency machinery that can be used that basically runs like between 7,000 and 13,000 scans on all your organ systems. And it can tell which ones are most out of whack.

Marcus (38:17.261)
Okay.

Marcus (38:22.586)
Mm.

Marcus (38:37.06)
What?

Dr. Flaherty (38:40.264)
and it administers adjusting, like corrective adjustments and frequencies. And so I talked about it in my second version, but I was like, I'm gonna invest in this machine and use it myself for people. could do it virtually, you could do it anywhere in the world. Like it's quantum technology. So I don't, that's one thing I think that makes the Friendy like super unique.

Marcus (39:07.429)
Super super like I don't see I was looked on the app store. I looked at I'm sorry I looked at other competing apps and things like that, and I'm like yeah Yeah, I don't see I don't see anybody with that. I like your it's simple like but yet and still like I Guess for you. It's user-friendly. I'm not gonna say simple, but it's definitely user-friendly I like to

Dr. Flaherty (39:31.586)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (39:33.634)
mean, like I said, have multiple aspects of nutrition, mindfulness, about the brain, blogs. It's not just about literal, you know, it covers, like you said, it covers all aspects. Mindfulness just, it gives you just the whole scope. So you answered, like, we had like five questions. I don't know if you had the script, but you answered literally all of our questions with that. So that was, that's the, that is, that's cool.

POD RASHID (39:52.228)
Yep.

POD RASHID (39:56.368)
Yep.

Dr. Flaherty (39:57.378)
Okay, good.

POD RASHID (40:00.006)
The only other thing I would add, I like how you know your audience and you like basically built around all of that. Like, I knew you were going to ask that. I put this on there. Like how long did it take you to, I guess, develop it? I don't know what you, word to use, but to think of it, I don't know.

Marcus (40:15.149)
Yep.

Marcus (40:20.92)
Right. To get it from manuscript to app store. Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (40:25.462)
Mm.

that was a much longer process for me to build the treatment manual itself. I was able to put that together in a month. To translate that into an app that was two years. It was arduous. Yeah, because it's at some point inside of your control, right? Like there's only so what I'm what I'm dealing with Big Apple, right? Like

Marcus (40:53.08)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (40:53.876)
Yeah, I'm just little Lauren. So I can only do my part and then the rest I gotta leave up to big corp. So yeah.

Marcus (40:56.921)
You

Marcus (41:01.845)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's cool. That's a lot of arms you have going at once.

Dr. Flaherty (41:12.554)
I know. That's what I've been told.

Marcus (41:16.237)
Community questions. There's a couple from, ask people, reach out, give me a couple questions, see if we can get Dr. Lauren on the case. So, as someone asks, what's the best way to get, I guess, a person experiencing a difference in cognitive behavior in front of a physician? Say if they're unwilling? Like just on a, what's the best way to communicate to them? Maybe the do's and don'ts, what might irritate them or?

Dr. Flaherty (41:27.093)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (41:46.634)
Yeah, I think the biggest piece of advice, honestly, and I would say this for people with severe autism as well,

Marcus (41:54.489)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (41:57.601)
No.

this sounds but you really have to watch the the impulse to pathologize them and what that means is instead of trying to drag them into your world you need to crawl into theirs for a little bit

So arguing with somebody you say that doesn't remember something or thinks the loved one is still alive, arguing with them that no, mom died 10 years ago. Don't do that. Don't do that. What's that going to solve? Because you already know that they think that person's there. So what you're going to do is you're going to scare the hell out of them. You're going to make them afraid.

Marcus (42:36.97)
Okay. Right.

Dr. Flaherty (42:53.596)
if that's what they're seeing it you know quite frankly like who are you to say like you know you're not really seeing that because maybe they are like you just you need to crawl in their world and don't argue with them and you need to phrase it in a way I mean you guys are men right like listen like it's already hard to get men to the doctor what would it take for your wife to get you guys to go to the doctor you can't if you make somebody feel sick

Marcus (43:14.933)
yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (43:22.53)
If you make somebody feel like, something's really wrong with you. need a crazy doctor. Nobody's gonna want to go. No, I mean, that's a very scary thing, but it's more like, Hey, everybody needs a checkup every six months. And we just let's, know, let's go together. I'll get a checkup with you. You know, I'll get mine after you get yours. And you know, it just, it's an easier way to get that first step taken care of. But like, I just,

When it comes to, you know, arguing with people who have a different experience, there's nothing really good that can come out of it. You've already surmised that they're not seeing reality. So you don't need to like double or triple check that, right? Yeah.

Marcus (44:07.06)
Yeah, double down on it. Yeah. Made me think, I know you say you're not big into TV shows that, you know, represent the medical field, but the show The Pit on Max, I did watch that. They had an intern who was helping out a patient and one of them, was just, he just has a brass personality. One of the doctors and the way he was talking to him had severe,

Dr. Flaherty (44:18.946)
Hmm.

Marcus (44:36.524)
patient has severe autism and she had a sister who actually she grew up with who has severe autism. So I don't know that show I thought it did a really good job of showing exactly what you're talking about of how you empathize with them you talk to them you she kind of stepped into her their world you know what have you been doing you know asking about him getting into what he likes and this and that not it showed just how it not only disarmed them but build trust and you know.

Dr. Flaherty (44:41.076)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (45:05.857)
Yeah.

Marcus (45:06.876)
the first steps to, you know, don't know, compromise or whatever.

Dr. Flaherty (45:12.5)
Yeah, I think doctors have a tendency, you know, there's there's just this sort of like, there's this prestige or whatever that comes with the education and, know, when, when somebody's in your office, they're coming to you for help. And I think the things are changing, which is good. But I think that doctors really, they need to, I wish they offered sort of a class and empathy building, cause it is a skill that you can build upon.

Marcus (45:41.302)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (45:42.018)
Um, and instead of the, you know, me master, you, um, need help dynamic. It's, it's just a lot less effective for complicated cases. And so that brass, like, you know, I need to get in and out. I'm here to help you do what I say attitude that doesn't really go over well with a lot of just.

human beings in general, really appreciates that. And then like for certain communities that are more at risk for diseases like dementia or even autism, for instance, the Black community is at much further risk. But there's a historical sort of distrust between Black America and the healthcare system.

Marcus (46:10.752)
You

Marcus (46:17.95)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (46:38.582)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (46:38.658)
And there's a distrust between females in the healthcare system. So when there's already these layers of skepticism and distrust, and then you bring in that authority component, you're lacking empathy, and it just isn't really a good recipe for effective treatments, I don't think. And it's not a good recipe for compliance. If you want the patients to actually do better and do what you say, don't you want them to...

Marcus (47:03.199)
Right.

Dr. Flaherty (47:08.578)
care about what you have to say and in order to get somebody to care about what you have to say you've got to kind of meet them where they're at for anybody.

POD RASHID (47:15.801)
Yeah.

Marcus (47:16.062)
Yep. Yep.

you on that. Work-life balance. What's a day in Lauren's shoes like? Are you like the rest of TikTok and wake up at 4 a.m. dip your face in ice cold water?

Dr. Flaherty (47:32.546)
No, no. No, need to do better. mean, I, I don't I do my best to balance. put in pretty decent boundaries at clinic. I'm not staying after a certain time. I don't care what's going on. Figure it out. But no, I mean, I just get up at 630 and

POD RASHID (47:34.131)
you

Marcus (47:50.912)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (47:59.798)
get all get kids dressed and you know the same thing all parents do all working parents you get them to school and then you go to work and then you get done with work and you pick them up and then you go to practice you take them to practices or whatever they have to do then you come home and you cook dinner and sometimes I'll have like a business meeting or a zoom meeting or whatever and I'll try to do that while I'm you know running a bath and cooking dinner and you just you got a multi-task

That's just what it is. don't I don't overbook myself. That's the other thing is like Overbook myself I will outside work and I'll book maybe one or two activities that that day and they have to be They can't like overlap. So and I'm really involved with my church as well. So that's obvious. That's like really big I don't want to say time sock, but it's a really big commitment

Marcus (48:32.151)
Mmm, there we go.

POD RASHID (48:55.034)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (48:55.298)
So just being able to say no when it's not gonna work. But also taking care of yourself. If you don't have the energy to do all that stuff, you're gonna burn out. I've burnt out before, I've been there, and it sucks. So don't do that to yourself.

Marcus (49:13.417)
What advice would you have for younger doctors on not burning out? What advice would you give them?

Dr. Flaherty (49:20.706)
Yeah, you got to know when you like, sometimes what happens is you don't realize that it's happening until it's already there. And then you're you're you're already broken. You got to kind of you got to like recognize when it's on the way before it gets there. So changes in sleep patterns. Are you eating regularly? Do you notice like your rest? I know this is nerdy, but like your resting heart rate is 70 when it should be more like 55.

Are you not able to sit still and watch a movie? Are you consistently thinking about like when you have a family night or whatever you think about tomorrow? Those are all kind of warning signals. Do you get dizzy often? Are you having hot flashes? Are you staying, are you actually?

Cutting back on your sleep time because the only time that you get to yourself is late at night. So you end up staying up till like 1 a.m. so you can get up in time for yourself. But then you got to get up at 630 and now you're running on fumes. Are you doing that? Well, that's a sign. That's a sign that, you know, something is going to give in the near future. Don't do what our, I guess forefathers did and think that it's okay to work.

Marcus (50:20.669)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (50:43.938)
you know 36 hours with no sleep who the hell wants a doctor that hasn't slept in 36 hours

Marcus (50:50.804)
That's true. That is so true.

Dr. Flaherty (50:52.714)
You know, set your boundaries. Say, I'm, I will be here from eight to four thirty and I'm out. Don't call me. Don't bother me.

Do not disturb, like on the phone. Do not disturb. Don't, yeah, just recognize that you're a human being and take, do what you tell your patients to do. Do that. Yeah.

POD RASHID (51:04.09)
That's good advice.

Marcus (51:13.524)
Oh, there you go. There you go. Take your own advice. Take your own medicine. There you go. I like that. I like my doctor. See, if I go to a dentist, I want his teeth to be, you know, want his teeth to look right, right? You know what I'm saying? So, same difference. And then while doing our research, we got a strong sense of community from you. I think we saw you at the Roots 101 this past week. Where does that stem from?

POD RASHID (51:14.256)
Thank you.

Dr. Flaherty (51:27.062)
That's right. That's right.

Dr. Flaherty (51:40.674)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (51:43.814)
Or even just like you, you know, say you're a big, you're big into volunteering or working at your church as well. So where's this them from?

Dr. Flaherty (51:52.256)
Mm-hmm. Well, I'm second generation immigrant. you know, I, I realize that community is, is everything. My church is about community. So I want to be, I want my kids to look back on it in 50 years and say, like, my mom was a big part of the reason that this is, this church is still around. As far as the roots, you know, I'm obviously not black, but I, I,

am scientifically minded and I recognize that the risk factors are higher in certain populations. Black America is one of them, rural America is one of them, America is one of them, or indigenous I guess is the more politically correct phrase. And so I kind of looked at the people that are most at risk, because I can't really tackle

Marcus (52:31.762)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (52:48.802)
everybody at the same time. So I thought who needs it most. And I just go in that order. And so the first was black America. And it just so happens that I have a lot of loved ones in my life that happened to be black Americans. And so I asked, you know, did they want to help me? Do they want to give me some ideas? Give me some advice? Do we want to? Do they believe in this? Do they want to come? Are they interested? And all of them said yes. So

there's been a really cool I mean, there's been a lot of events that have happened not just that was mind fast at roots. Museum, I did a podcast the weekend before that talking about similar issues like how social issues correlate with brain health and specifically like in black America, we did this really cool opening to kind of like ease tension, not tensions, but like

collide worlds, right? Because I'm not black, the host was black. she and I came up with an idea that maybe as an opening to loosen things up, she was going to ask questions that she didn't think I knew the answers to. And so that was really fun. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. was like, black mom sayings. Like, what is that? What do you think this means?

POD RASHID (54:06.182)
and

Marcus (54:06.91)
That was good. good. That was good.

POD RASHID (54:15.6)
This is so much fun.

Dr. Flaherty (54:16.13)
And I think I did really well but so and there's been a lot of other events we've done Q &A's that were open to the public. You know we've done roundtable discussions and just really trying to get the resources, the access, the education, everything out there to the populations that need it most first.

Marcus (54:17.66)
That's good.

Dr. Flaherty (54:43.959)
And it just happens I have some, you know, really cool awesome loved ones that happen to be willing to help me.

Marcus (54:53.586)
personal connections and also you just like tackling the big problems. Cognitive, you're like cognitive needs me, CI needs me, I'm there. Community needs me, I'm there. That's exactly, I'm glad we had you on, have you on, because that's exactly.

Dr. Flaherty (55:00.583)
Yeah, exactly.

Marcus (55:12.452)
try to push. So you want to do the funding questions? You want to get to the funding questions time? All right.

POD RASHID (55:16.474)
Yeah

Dr. Flaherty (55:16.544)
Go for it. Go for it. Do any them have to do with like, Manosphere stuff by any chance? No?

Marcus (55:24.787)
I don't think so. Like I said, we try to combat it. We try to combat it.

Dr. Flaherty (55:26.176)
Okay.

POD RASHID (55:26.63)
Our question.

Yeah. I didn't, you mean the questions that they have to do deal with men. It's fair.

Dr. Flaherty (55:35.776)
Yeah, like funny funny questions. I never know. I never know what to expect honestly

Marcus (55:36.592)
Hmm. Uhhh...

POD RASHID (55:41.412)
I mean, they could touch on it, but it's not the main focus.

Marcus (55:41.49)
I don't think so. think they're kind of in your field of study, kind of about you, you know, about who you are, you know, just maybe quirky questions. We'll call it quirky questions. I like that. We'll stick with that. All right.

Dr. Flaherty (55:52.983)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (55:57.218)
All right.

POD RASHID (55:57.254)
I have one because I'm left-handed. you know, most people are right-handed. Is that a real thing?

Marcus (56:01.754)
And I'm right handed, so who's better?

Dr. Flaherty (56:05.738)
You better!

Marcus (56:06.48)
Now, left brain, right brain, better.

Dr. Flaherty (56:12.066)
Yeah, to a certain extent, but it's not as concrete as people like to make it seem because the brain compensates so well. We could cut out half of your brain and it would be able to compensate. So it's not as clear cut, but yeah, there's people that are more dominant on one side than the other, obviously.

POD RASHID (56:36.228)
And does the hand determine that at all? Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (56:39.22)
Yeah, the hands a big indicator. That's one of the first questions I ask in the intake is what, you know, are you right handed or left handed? It helps determine like language centers and things that are going to be more likely to be like protected in certain events. So yeah.

Marcus (56:46.866)
Thank you.

Marcus (56:55.246)
Right, right. So if I grew up my mom, I grew up left handed, my mom made me right handed. Does that, am I better than Rashad or no?

Dr. Flaherty (57:04.994)
Well that means you're Andy then right like if you could do both

POD RASHID (57:05.458)
Hehehehehe

Marcus (57:10.703)
Just a little bit, like, you know, like, shoot a layup here, you know, I drive with my left hand all the time, but I don't drive with my right hand. So it's like real small things, nothing crazy.

Dr. Flaherty (57:21.538)
I mean, I don't know, think the Ambies got, they've got the prestige over all of us.

POD RASHID (57:25.456)
They might, you know.

Marcus (57:26.885)
the ambies. a little, I speak a little amby. I'm not fluent. I speak a little amby. All right.

POD RASHID (57:30.932)
Hehehehehe

Dr. Flaherty (57:34.53)
you

POD RASHID (57:34.566)
The other one, is it a myth that humans only use 10 % of their brain? Is that complete BS or is that?

Dr. Flaherty (57:45.984)
I think, yeah, it's a myth. I think there's an element, a nugget of truth to it. Now, you use a certain portion of your brain at one given time, right? But also keep in mind that your breath, your heart rate, your muscle tone, holding your head up, your posture, your blinking, all of that requires your brain to be in action, right?

Marcus (57:49.393)
You

Dr. Flaherty (58:15.552)
That's already, if we're talking about brain stem, that's already a...

you know, I would say 10%. But I think what they're getting at here is that you are, you know, not, it is impossible to use all of your brain at one given moment, because we are trapped in three dimensional, you know, or actually four dimensional, considering one is time. But should there be a day where we aren't limited by time, perhaps that would not be the issue.

Marcus (58:42.746)
Yeah.

Marcus (58:53.648)
Interesting. I like that. That's a different thought. Can you enjoy football and contact sports? Or how's your field of study? Yeah, like does your field of like has that, have you ever liked them? Did it change because of your field of study? Do you still like them?

Dr. Flaherty (59:01.384)
Do I enjoy them?

Dr. Flaherty (59:11.446)
I don't like them. My son plays football and I hate it.

Marcus (59:15.6)
Mmm, we both grew up playing football. We were big. We were big on football. Big on football.

Dr. Flaherty (59:20.458)
Now my husband did too. Like obviously I didn't want my son to play. He won that argument. He convinced me that the helmets were the safest they've ever been.

POD RASHID (59:20.624)
you

Dr. Flaherty (59:33.708)
but my gosh, hold on, can we stop recording for a second?

Marcus (59:33.936)
I

I'm gonna let him slide with that one. I haven't met him. I'm gonna let him slide with that.

Dr. Flaherty (59:41.312)
Are we able, I have somebody knocking on my door. Am I allowed to take like a 20 second?

Marcus (59:46.704)
Go ahead, we can edit that out. If you need to take a five minute break, go ahead.

Dr. Flaherty (59:48.042)
All right. OK, hold on one second. Sorry. I think this attack is here.

POD RASHID (59:48.902)
Yeah.

POD RASHID (59:54.022)
That's funny.

Marcus (59:55.716)
That is, Let's go real quick. He played round here or something. He played,

POD RASHID (59:56.996)
Yeah, thanks.

Dr. Flaherty (01:00:01.346)
I didn't realize he was...

POD RASHID (01:00:01.86)
That's what they pulling out now? I'm gonna keep that in mind.

Marcus (01:00:05.008)
I mean, I'm gonna keep that in mind. I'm gonna rebuild the argument though for something else. So like, the price has never been lower than this time. We gotta go to Jamaica, baby. No, you're good, you're good. But yes, yeah, we gotta go to Jamaica, baby. It's only $1,900 a person.

POD RASHID (01:00:12.99)
Exactly. You got to come with numbers. It's OK.

Dr. Flaherty (01:00:17.622)
Help me write back, sorry.

POD RASHID (01:00:26.246)
I'm

Marcus (01:00:30.511)
Damn, that does sound, actually that sounds like a lot. I don't know why you even said that. that sounds about right. Cause you throw the flight in there. You throw the flight in there. The flight shouldn't be that crazy though. But like I said, that sounds like a next year, like time wise to save money, like a hundred a month or something. Like next year, like cold, when it gets cold next year.

POD RASHID (01:00:39.32)
Exactly.

POD RASHID (01:00:45.254)
I'm gonna it.

POD RASHID (01:00:58.63)
Let's head on out.

Marcus (01:00:59.791)
Let's go ahead on out by November or something, you feel me? For Christmas or, you know, everything gets busy up until Christmas. You can do it afterwards once it slows down.

POD RASHID (01:01:08.804)
Right. It'll take a steep.

Marcus (01:01:11.661)
Yeah, because you know, we lose track of time between January and February.

POD RASHID (01:01:15.83)
Mm-hmm. Like, because you were covering, most people didn't put themselves in a bad position. Thanksgiving, Christmas, Black Friday, New Year.

Marcus (01:01:17.049)
They're not real months anyways.

True.

Marcus (01:01:29.583)
Christmas, like Friday. They probably tricked on Halloween. It probably, you know, it probably started late today. It probably started football season.

POD RASHID (01:01:33.766)
New Year, just because. Crazy, last half. So literally, the last half of the year is you getting ate up, and the first half of the year is you recovering.

Marcus (01:01:51.407)
My mom always used to tell me that she used to be like, don't think in the summers that you just that you can just do whatever. She was like, it gets crazy on the back end. She was like, plus you go back to football, you go back to school, da da da da da da, cracking up.

POD RASHID (01:02:01.347)
No, that's it.

POD RASHID (01:02:08.557)
my... I don't even have a mic. That's a tough time. That's a tough time.

Marcus (01:02:16.206)
I think we probably, I wanna say how much time she has, but we could probably just run through the top fives. It depends on how much time she wants to stay on, that's all I'm ask her.

POD RASHID (01:02:25.594)
Yeah, we can, I don't know which one you want to do the most.

Dr. Flaherty (01:02:30.122)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:02:35.436)
Sorry.

Marcus (01:02:35.918)
Yeah, no, you're good. And like I said, just let us know how much. We only have like funny questions and tough apps left. So if we're here. OK, cool. Just want to make sure. All right, so you said you don't like football. Your husband. Did your husband play football around here?

Dr. Flaherty (01:02:38.526)
Ugh.

Dr. Flaherty (01:02:44.502)
Let's get it, let's do it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:02:54.402)
Not around here. He's from Indiana. He played in college though. He was at Franklin College.

Marcus (01:02:57.472)
Okay

Marcus (01:03:03.884)
Okay. Did tone play at Franklin? Is that in Tennessee?

POD RASHID (01:03:04.026)
Alright. Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:03:09.245)
No, it's in Indiana.

Marcus (01:03:10.918)
Okay, then no, that's not the one he plays some school. But anyways If you can implant one idea into the public's collective conscious about mental health, what would it be?

Dr. Flaherty (01:03:31.936)
that geez that's tough

Marcus (01:03:35.745)
I know.

Marcus (01:03:43.352)
We'll give you two if you're really struggling.

Dr. Flaherty (01:03:46.408)
Okay.

that humans are not as simplistic as animals and that we consist of a mind, a spirit and a soul. And the noose essentially the soul includes the mind and that's like your emotions, but the brain is the flesh of the flesh embodiment of your of your noose.

Marcus (01:04:23.885)
That's hard.

POD RASHID (01:04:26.875)
Alright.

Marcus (01:04:27.895)
Hold on, it's reconnecting. It's reconnecting, I think.

Marcus (01:04:38.017)
Why couldn't you do this on her break reconnection?

POD RASHID (01:04:55.878)
I wonder if she can hear us, you know sometimes it'd be...

Marcus (01:04:58.381)
I don't think so though.

Marcus (01:05:04.171)
Yeah, that's cool. I was wondering if she was gonna go out and come back in.

Marcus (01:05:10.615)
while we psychoanalyze. I'll let you finish up.

POD RASHID (01:05:16.774)
The quick fire.

Marcus (01:05:18.325)
Yeah, well, and psycho, do your kids, friends, or family psychoanalyze you.

POD RASHID (01:05:29.03)
Alright.

Marcus (01:05:37.47)
Excuse me.

POD RASHID (01:05:55.628)
Were you speaking to her through Mac?

Marcus (01:06:03.199)
Yep.

POD RASHID (01:06:07.535)
if she will come back.

Marcus (01:06:07.789)
speak to her street team advisor.

POD RASHID (01:06:11.514)
Nah, for real. listen to what you... You had moolah on his bokeh.

Marcus (01:06:13.389)
just part of our street team.

Marcus (01:06:24.801)
Bessa baby.

POD RASHID (01:06:26.054)
Come on. Hell.

Marcus (01:06:28.459)
As a G,

He say, come on baby. That's tough. Only me and you would get it. Only me you would get it though. That's so hilarious.

Dr. Flaherty (01:06:41.429)
Struggles my computer died, but

POD RASHID (01:06:45.637)
Okay.

Marcus (01:06:45.753)
no problem. No problem. No worries, it'll show up just fine. It'll show up just fine.

POD RASHID (01:06:51.758)
Yeah, it'll be just fine. So.

Dr. Flaherty (01:06:58.061)
You want me to start over?

Marcus (01:07:00.524)
No, I thought we got it. maybe we didn't. Maybe you got cut off. They can give you answers.

Dr. Flaherty (01:07:06.709)
I think I got cut off. I'll make it more simple. I was just basically gonna say that the mind is a spiritual thing but the the brain is the flesh embodiment of it. So you've got to take care of both and inflammation. The other thing would be inflammation is the cause of 99 % of all disease. So you can't

You can't treat your body or your soul like crap and expect to get out scot-free.

Marcus (01:07:44.704)
Bye.

Uhhh... Go ahead.

POD RASHID (01:07:47.622)
Do your kids, friends or family ever psychoanalyze you since they know what you do for a living?

Dr. Flaherty (01:07:58.674)
They don't try that.

POD RASHID (01:07:59.47)
Or do they leave it up to you? Okay.

Marcus (01:08:01.604)
so she yeah, she's big. She's boss. She's boss.

Dr. Flaherty (01:08:03.181)
They don't they don't even want to try. They don't want to go down that road with me.

POD RASHID (01:08:07.398)
You know, reversal don't know.

POD RASHID (01:08:11.724)
Exactly. I understand. All right.

Marcus (01:08:13.067)
Stared to look her in the eye, I don't even want to look her in the eye. Telekinetic. She already knows.

Dr. Flaherty (01:08:21.357)
obviously a very direct person. If I have a feeling or a thought about something, I will just, they don't actually, nobody really has to analyze me because I'll just tell you.

POD RASHID (01:08:21.722)
What do we get? We got a.

Marcus (01:08:36.787)
so it's to their benefit then. They just don't know it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:08:40.017)
Yeah, and it's it's it's there it's their best interest not to play that game because I I'll do it right back to them so they know better

POD RASHID (01:08:49.854)
Right. Right. Okay. We got a just a little quick fire three questions. So your dream tennis partner.

Marcus (01:09:01.693)
when you play, you know, you play tennis.

Dr. Flaherty (01:09:07.821)
I mean, I'm gonna want to go with somebody that doesn't actually play tennis so I would win. So, no, nevermind, I'm not with that. would have to, I would, nevermind. No, I thought of somebody, but I'm not going to. That's a good question. I mean, actually the best answer would be somebody that's actually a pro, somebody that is better than me so they could actually make me better. Which would be your pick of any person ever.

Marcus (01:09:16.073)
Okay.

POD RASHID (01:09:23.467)
Thank you.

Dr. Flaherty (01:09:36.565)
at this point in time, like anybody ever.

POD RASHID (01:09:39.398)
Okay.

Marcus (01:09:41.471)
Are you a fan of women's tennis or tennis in general? Do you have any player you like right now?

Dr. Flaherty (01:09:48.78)
I am a fan in the sense for women and men, in the sense that I just enjoy watching it. I'm not super dedicated to keeping track of, you know, scores, turn events, things like that. But when it's on, I do enjoy watching it more than anything. I just like to play it. It's one of those games where you have to take the fall if there's a loss. It's all on you.

and but at this on the same side of that if there's a win then that you get to take that too.

Marcus (01:10:26.123)
Yeah, I grew up with a tennis playing mama. So I already know. Now were you a big Wii tennis person?

Dr. Flaherty (01:10:32.719)
So what's interesting is I've always been anti video games, anti everything. I just recently got a I just recently allowed a Nintendo Switch. I think it's what it's called or was it Nintendo Switch where? Yeah, it was during the wintertime. My kids were driving me crazy and they weren't able to play.

POD RASHID (01:10:37.947)
Mm-hmm.

POD RASHID (01:10:52.774)
and

Marcus (01:10:52.804)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (01:11:00.202)
You

Dr. Flaherty (01:11:01.715)
Outside and so I figured it was a good idea because that way they could still be active and play with each other and get some kind of workout in but and leave me alone Without like, you know being so I'm I'm open to it now. I like playing it

POD RASHID (01:11:14.48)
Yeah.

Marcus (01:11:14.482)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Marcus (01:11:19.508)
Exactly.

Marcus (01:11:25.284)
Okay, you can keep going Rashaad.

POD RASHID (01:11:26.278)
All

your favorite Buffy episode.

Dr. Flaherty (01:11:34.231)
I'm a really big, I like, I really love the first season and

It's because that it was such a formative time in my life when it came out. I was in sixth grade and I don't know, you guys remember that time of life? You know, you're like 12, it's like awkward, you're weird, you don't know, you look weird, you know, you look funny, you have no idea who you are, you're very insecure.

Marcus (01:12:00.074)
No, no, no.

Dr. Flaherty (01:12:08.087)
and that show came out during that time. It's kind of cheesy in the first couple episodes, but they picked up, you know, special effects pretty quickly. And it really helped me to find a sense of self at a young age. And every demon that they fought during the first season had like a metaphor for the demons of high school. So like whatever problem that...

Marcus (01:12:35.465)
Okay.

POD RASHID (01:12:35.91)
you

Dr. Flaherty (01:12:36.223)
Going through high school problems, the demon, there was some correlation there and I really, I really liked that. But my overall favorite, I would have to say, is the very last one, where, the very last of the very last season, where the problem looks insurmountable and Buffy gives speech to the girls, because only the girls can be slayers, and it's about making a choice.

and making a choice to stand up and do what is right even if it looks like you're gonna lose. She says some really powerful shit in there, man. She says like, there's only one thing scarier than evil and that's us. And that's the type of stuff that I really like. It's speaking to girls, because I mean, you always think.

boys superheroes. then like when there are girl, girls superheroes, they're usually very sexualized and like they didn't really do anything. They didn't really do anything to earn their powers. Like they didn't do it. They didn't like go through like, you know, the fire to become that or whatever. They're just like, they're chosen because they're pretty and they're like bodies or everything. But it's like, there's a very few where the women are just

Marcus (01:13:37.145)
my gosh, we just talked about this.

Dr. Flaherty (01:13:59.765)
And Buffy is that sometimes her life like really really sucks, but she never ever ever ever quits. And so I want my daughters to know that like, yeah, sometimes it's gonna be tough. Don't ever stop, ever.

Marcus (01:14:17.16)
That's the truth. That's only thing that can stop you is you.

POD RASHID (01:14:24.26)
And then one last rapid fire. So the one app on your phone besides Friend D that you can't live without.

Dr. Flaherty (01:14:34.001)
You mean besides like the basics like my calendar and stuff like that?

Marcus (01:14:38.46)
Yes.

POD RASHID (01:14:38.95)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:14:41.199)
Every night I listen to, I have the Pray app on my phone. Yeah, and so it gives me reminders every night and it picks out a verse to listen to and then offers a podcast about that verse. And then you can also make comments in the community about it or whatever. And that's probably the one that I use outside of like the standards.

Marcus (01:14:48.296)
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Marcus (01:14:54.45)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (01:15:08.265)
every day. All the other ones I could kind of, I could, I wouldn't really care if they disappeared.

Marcus (01:15:17.96)
I like it. We're going back to the 90s.

POD RASHID (01:15:18.086)
That's it.

POD RASHID (01:15:22.502)
You wanna do top fives?

POD RASHID (01:15:28.006)
Does she have anything else Marcus you want to say besides the top of it?

Marcus (01:15:30.6)
I was going say favorite Greek dish.

Dr. Flaherty (01:15:33.565)
gosh, off the liminal soup. Yes, that was the first thing that everybody in my family ate when they were coming off of like the baby milk. is, it's home and it's like, it takes six hours to make and I love making it for my family and it's the thing that brings everybody home.

Marcus (01:15:55.122)
Okay.

Marcus (01:15:59.868)
Is there somewhere here I can get it that you would recommend? That's what I figured.

Dr. Flaherty (01:16:02.441)
I've looked and what they'll offer in some restaurants is they'll say like the Greek lemon soup. It's not it's just like what they do is they they put rice and chicken broth and squirt some lemon in there. I'm like this is not

it.

Marcus (01:16:21.928)
I have to get it authentically made.

Dr. Flaherty (01:16:25.586)
Yeah, for real.

Marcus (01:16:27.826)
Okay. I'm ready to medicine. Could you see you and your family on a reality show?

Dr. Flaherty (01:16:34.375)
That's so funny because I actually watched that not too long ago. I don't know whether to be embarrassed about that or not.

I told you guys I so it's true. I don't know if I should be embarrassed or not, but I Watched that not too long ago. Yeah, I My husband is too private to do to do a reality TV show I don't think he would be at all Like we don't even post my kids actual faces on social media because of all the freaks out there. So Yeah

Marcus (01:16:53.234)
My wife watches all that.

POD RASHID (01:17:11.632)
Right.

Dr. Flaherty (01:17:14.023)
I'll let you

POD RASHID (01:17:14.758)
But hang on now.

Marcus (01:17:18.31)
Do you know the song anxiety by Dochi?

Dr. Flaherty (01:17:22.03)
No.

Marcus (01:17:23.942)
Okay. Only reason it's big on TikTok, because people are saying that the chords she picked, it's a song called Anxiety, talks about how she has anxiety. People are saying she picked chords that are known for causing anxiety to the listener. So since you're in, you you're talking about your quantum machine before and frequencies and things like that. I would be interested to hear your review of the song.

Dr. Flaherty (01:17:33.732)
Okay.

Marcus (01:17:53.104)
from a neuro, that would be kind of cool.

Dr. Flaherty (01:17:56.367)
listen to it, I do know that certain melody frequencies carry certain properties. That is for sure. Like there's certain frequencies that are best for healing. think even like Tesla had discovered this a long time ago. so when I'm feeling super

POD RASHID (01:18:18.608)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:18:24.775)
overstimulated there's a specific frequency that I listen to and it's my favorite one because there's a lot of different choices at that same frequency but there's just this one really like strikes a chord with me and I can't it's weird it like it puts me in a in a different state and I only need it for like 10 minutes and then it feels like I just like woke up from a good night's sleep or something it's weird. So

Marcus (01:18:54.189)
Is it like a specific hurt?

Dr. Flaherty (01:18:54.215)
if yeah so it's 432 but there's a specific one that I because there's tons of 432s that I really really like it just kind of speaks to me I guess but I mean if there's frequencies that are healing then it stands to reason that there's also frequencies that are disruptive as well and

Marcus (01:19:01.005)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:19:23.909)
Our government knows that. They've been, they've been toying with that for.

Marcus (01:19:30.436)
Yeah, so you think they took all the big bells like Liberty bells and things that we used to have in churches and took them away because they used to give us some kind of sonic resonance within each other or something. That's just a con... Okay,

Dr. Flaherty (01:19:40.506)
They do and yeah, I know. though, but it's true. like I look at my church, the way that it's shaped, it's not like a little cubicle. It's shaped with a dome, almost like the bell itself. And you know, think all it's mosques and Orthodox churches are, they're kind of shaped similarly. if you go back to,

Marcus (01:19:54.15)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (01:20:09.057)
you know the more ancient structures that is how they were they were shaped for the for the holy places now if you want to look at pyramids that's a whole different that's a whole different purpose you know

Marcus (01:20:30.497)
Yeah. All right. Move it along. it along. We'll give you stereotypes of doctors and you can tell us if they're right or wrong.

Dr. Flaherty (01:20:42.886)
Alright, that'll be fun.

POD RASHID (01:20:48.966)
All right. They're always rich.

Dr. Flaherty (01:20:56.293)
Yeah, yeah, for the most part, yeah, I mean if you're if you're comparing it to the average America, yes, different specialties will make different amounts, you know. Primary care is not gonna make much as cardiology, but overall, they'll make good money unless they spend their

Orly, yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:21:31.813)
As a whole, as a whole. As a whole, make a good

POD RASHID (01:21:33.585)
Marcus (01:21:33.683)
Let's connect.

POD RASHID (01:21:49.454)
It was breaking up for a moment. That's why I probably won't.

Marcus (01:21:51.853)
you're back yeah all right

Dr. Flaherty (01:21:52.849)
Okay, what did you hear me say?

POD RASHID (01:21:54.758)
Okay.

POD RASHID (01:22:00.4)
We heard the first part, then you pause and then start speaking again.

Marcus (01:22:04.879)
That's it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:22:05.481)
All right, I don't know why I said that for the most part yes, they take a good living some are better than others, but yeah, they do well

Marcus (01:22:18.454)
arrogant pretentious

Dr. Flaherty (01:22:19.205)
A lot of them, yeah. I think certain specialties attract that personality more. Surgery, cardiology.

Marcus (01:22:35.118)
Really?

Dr. Flaherty (01:22:39.703)
Yeah, those tend, surgery, cardiology, dermatology, they tend to be a little bit more cocky.

Marcus (01:22:49.794)
Interesting.

POD RASHID (01:22:50.286)
I like surgeons will feel like rock stars or something, you know, like...

Marcus (01:22:53.844)
Right, they in and they do a solo and then leave.

Dr. Flaherty (01:22:58.105)
Yeah, well, but you know what? They score really high on like pathology and like sociopathy too. Like you almost kind of have to to be a surgeon. Yeah.

Marcus (01:23:07.3)
Really? Okay. So they're like a score in the NBA or something like that. What was I going to say off that? Oh, I don't know if I'll put this in. I might edit this out. But my godmother was married to a neurosurgeon. Oh my gosh. That was probably the most pretentious man I've ever met. I'm not even going to lie to you.

POD RASHID (01:23:12.452)
Right.

Dr. Flaherty (01:23:32.822)
Probably.

Marcus (01:23:35.02)
And he's black too, so he might not to make it any, you know, whatever, but like he thought he's a unicorn. He thought he was the one. He thought he was the one. I mean, for real, he thought he was. I was just like, you know, I saw where that was on go as a kid.

Dr. Flaherty (01:23:41.892)
N-ha!

POD RASHID (01:23:50.662)
You already know.

Marcus (01:23:52.215)
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, it does. Y'all are all work, no breaks. Y'all have no life outside of work.

Dr. Flaherty (01:23:53.484)
It.

POD RASHID (01:23:58.906)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:24:03.588)
think that used to be true, like back in the 80s and the 90s, but now I think that's changed. I think that's very different now. I think there's been a shift for better mental health among health care workers. They're at high risk for suicide and things like that. So I think that that's definitely changed.

Marcus (01:24:29.929)
Nice. Y'all all the same like gas stations? I'm like, I'm just getting gas. It's like all the same. I can go to this doctor, that doctor.

Dr. Flaherty (01:24:40.068)
Are we all the same? God no. No. No.

Dr. Flaherty (01:24:49.57)
No, like there are bad doctors and there some really great doctors like any bad lawyers, bad dentists, bad salesmen, everything.

Marcus (01:25:00.643)
you

Marcus (01:25:05.537)
Yeah. Y'all are late. Hello, I got places to go.

Dr. Flaherty (01:25:10.422)
Yeah. Yeah, it's true.

POD RASHID (01:25:13.268)
Hehehehehe

Marcus (01:25:15.598)
And I don't know this one. I just found this on the internet. Psychiatrist love corduroy. What does that have to do? What is that?

Dr. Flaherty (01:25:23.012)
I never heard that.

POD RASHID (01:25:23.494)
you

Marcus (01:25:25.378)
Okay, I just want to make sure I kept seeing it and I'm like, what is this? I've never seen the corduroy on the, I don't know. don't know. All right.

POD RASHID (01:25:31.002)
That is... that's hilarious.

Dr. Flaherty (01:25:34.98)
Mm, no.

Marcus (01:25:38.614)
Time-dependent, I don't know, we can just do your top fives if you want to. We can do your top fives, or not top five, but favorite superheroes and why, and top five self-care acts a busy lady does if you wanna do those.

Dr. Flaherty (01:25:52.055)
Okay, I need you to let me answer my front door again. Sorry, the tech is like starting. Oh, nevermind, who just left, nevermind. Yeah, do you wanna do top five self care? Because I think that's really relevant.

Marcus (01:25:56.182)
No.

Marcus (01:26:12.042)
must have it. Give us your top five.

Dr. Flaherty (01:26:17.571)
My top five, one thing I do is I take a bath with magnesium and detox clay.

Marcus (01:26:29.244)
Write that down Rashad.

POD RASHID (01:26:30.79)
Mm-hmm, yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:26:33.314)
It's a wonderful I mean it so magnesium is we're all deficient as our oil here sucks and our food sucks but really correlated with relaxation muscle spasms and digestion and good sleep so I love magnesium every night and I take a bath or some inflates and that the

play detox stuff. That's for me. And then I listen to these when I... What is he doing? I do. I set aside a short period of time where I delight all five of my senses.

So, and I do it with intention. So, my favorite smell, my food, my favorite like soft blanket, and I really like the sound of the cicada. So I, you know, I'll on that. And five of them for a short period. The other thing.

Dr. Flaherty (01:28:02.402)
I like to go outside into the sun. I'm like I'm a definitely a summer girl and gives me a of care and quiet on this that I need.

Marcus (01:28:18.102)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:28:30.786)
and sun at the like 10 minutes it makes a huge me and my health and then I I eat

Dr. Flaherty (01:28:49.908)
And he's back again. Hold on.

Marcus (01:28:53.546)
BLEH

POD RASHID (01:28:56.774)
Definitely going to tell Maya about the magnesium and detoxing.

Marcus (01:29:01.983)
Wow.

what I need. Give me on the healing session how much yeah I'm gonna need them I'm gonna need the frequencies I need the bad open the spot

POD RASHID (01:29:07.056)
She loves it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:29:16.672)
The moon's friendship lasted forever.

POD RASHID (01:29:19.728)
mean, as much as she knows, she could go take that in so many different directions.

Marcus (01:29:24.49)
That is true. This is a neuro... This is a neuro...

Marcus (01:29:32.864)
Neurologic... neuro based? Like a neuro based program? Neurological based.

POD RASHID (01:29:40.231)
W is to say neuro baby, mic sac baby.

POD RASHID (01:29:47.654)
You

POD RASHID (01:29:54.853)
We will.

Marcus (01:29:56.65)
Kabeza baby

POD RASHID (01:29:58.086)
Like, is this song from? Where y'all at?

Marcus (01:30:02.784)
Where was going down was going up?

While she's gone, I'm gonna give y'all the women in my family's top five self-care acts a busy lady does because it's necessary. Number one, sleep. Who would have thought? Beauty sleep, most importantly. Don't get that weak stuff. Don't get that weak stuff. Two, spiritual mindfulness. Spiritual mindfulness. So taking care of your spirit. Three.

POD RASHID (01:30:23.334)
It's legitimately number one.

Dr. Flaherty (01:30:37.002)
What's happening? My dog's too loud. Knock on my door today. Alright, I'm back. Sorry.

Marcus (01:30:41.277)
Action.

Marcus (01:30:47.104)
So we get up and exercise. She ran back. Bam.

Dr. Flaherty (01:30:51.168)
I get a lot of activity in a day.

Marcus (01:30:57.586)
No, that's exercise is important for self-care. That's what we were talking about.

Dr. Flaherty (01:31:01.984)
Here's the other thing I do. Here's a good one. I get those frequency treatments done on myself and I do lymph massages. There you go.

Marcus (01:31:15.304)
Where did they limp? Like, limb nose?

Dr. Flaherty (01:31:18.432)
Yeah, so lymph massages where, mean, it's like lymph and blood are basically two fluids that are consistently in circulation. But unfortunately, you look at where lymph nodes are placed, right? And down in the groin and whatnot, they're placed in areas where it's strategic, they need to be there, but it's also areas where things can easily build up.

And since that has to do with like white blood cell immune health, clearing toxins, if you don't have good circulation, then you can build up inflammation and get sick.

Marcus (01:31:54.755)
really? Okay.

POD RASHID (01:32:05.35)
And earlier, one more time, you said inflammation is 99 % the cause of diseases.

Dr. Flaherty (01:32:11.284)
Yeah, I have a hard time thinking of exceptions. Maybe like diabetes type one. But even then, like, or leukemia, but even then there has to be a perfect storm to activate the improper cell matrix. Like there has to be not just the genetic coding, but

environmental factors to make it start, you know, building cells that are not that are not supposed to be there.

Marcus (01:32:45.255)
Right.

Marcus (01:32:50.015)
Did you hear China said that they had solved? Didn't they say that they cured type 1 diabetes last week?

POD RASHID (01:32:56.346)
Yes, they've, they've,

Marcus (01:32:57.993)
Do stem cell refouge.

POD RASHID (01:33:01.134)
Yes, it's that word I pronounced it wrong is called islet sales. said they make those basically and they're able to produce and then they have stem cells from the person and basically they saw.

Dr. Flaherty (01:33:02.496)
Yeah.

I'm very skeptical. I mean, I wouldn't believe it until I saw 20 year long study.

Marcus (01:33:26.97)
Right, right.

POD RASHID (01:33:28.762)
They said they have a case study of a woman for, it's been two years, so.

Marcus (01:33:33.715)
It's only been two years, yeah, so that goes for it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:33:35.583)
Yeah, it's not the cells because those cells, they're there to make insulin, which obviously you need, but the stem cells, I'd be wondering what that would do long term. So I don't know.

Marcus (01:33:48.178)
Hmm. From what aspect, you mean? Like what it would do long term? Like to the patient or just in general? it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:33:55.839)
Yeah, because it's.

I mean, it's in a way it's very unnatural. And there's always a cost, always.

Marcus (01:34:05.426)
Right, right.

POD RASHID (01:34:05.446)
We will.

Marcus (01:34:11.208)
So for every push, there's a pull, even within that concept kind of deal.

Dr. Flaherty (01:34:15.411)
Yeah, yeah, there's always, there's always a cost when something is, you know, unnaturally occurring. I just don't know what that is, you know.

Marcus (01:34:24.668)
Right.

Marcus (01:34:30.696)
We appreciate you for our media literacy. We had to get it up one time.

POD RASHID (01:34:37.606)
I'm really interested to hear your top five superheroes.

Marcus (01:34:42.598)
Yeah, you don't have to go in depth. Or just...

Dr. Flaherty (01:34:48.169)
Okay, so I obviously you already know my top one is gonna be Buffy for sure. I don't think Wonder Woman fits anywhere in there at all. I would give...

POD RASHID (01:34:55.929)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:35:07.935)
Nevermind, I would give Batman probably number four simply because he had to like overcome a tragedy although he was gifted billions of dollars so like how hard could it really be but he lost both of his parents in a tragic accident so money can't replace that and he did go have a vendetta to you know better the chaotic environment.

POD RASHID (01:35:20.827)
Ha!

Dr. Flaherty (01:35:35.791)
And let's see, number two, I would give...

Dr. Flaherty (01:35:45.983)
just wanna say Aquaman just because I think of Jason Momoa and he's so hot and I just, I'm like.

Marcus (01:35:51.869)
the

Dr. Flaherty (01:35:59.197)
He's, he is pretty privileged and my flesh blinds me. I'm sorry. Maybe he's not even.

Marcus (01:36:06.119)
That's our blind spot Jason Momoa.

Marcus (01:36:12.871)
Jason Momoa is her blind spot. I gotcha, I gotcha. Anything else you have Rashad?

POD RASHID (01:36:20.966)
I think?

That's about it. Make sure, cause I had some of those facts about the brain, make sure I don't want to.

I don't know if she can hear us.

Marcus (01:36:35.709)
I don't think- No, I don't think so. Only thing I was gonna ask her is if she wants to uh-

if she wants to. Now it sounds weird.

POD RASHID (01:36:49.634)
You

Marcus (01:36:52.477)
If she's going to the Greek Fest, I turned on the news today in the Greek Fest is this weekend. said, damn, this is perfect. I gotta ask her about this. Yeah. So is it because we spoke her in the fruition that I saw the Greek this morning? Is it because we spoke? Yeah. Because you know, times, you know, once we figure out time.

POD RASHID (01:36:57.102)
Hmm... And then?

That is interesting.

POD RASHID (01:37:06.246)
exactly like, we even this weekend until we started talking about this stuff and then.

POD RASHID (01:37:18.394)
Time is moving faster, bro. Time is speeding up as we go.

Marcus (01:37:24.637)
Do you think the CERN Collider messed up something, man? Do you think that messed up because they said the world was supposed end in 2012, blah blah blah? Not even that. I think they messed up something in 2019. Because ever since 2019, I can't keep track of time.

POD RASHID (01:37:30.79)
Are they doing something?

POD RASHID (01:37:46.022)
2020 COVID and...

Marcus (01:37:47.303)
track of my life type deal. You know what saying? Like my personal time. Like what was I doing in 2019? Like fuck, what was I doing right before that? Like I have to go back and be like, look at pictures and be like, damn, we did go to Europe at that time. You know, we did do this, we did do that.

POD RASHID (01:38:01.028)
No, no, no, I can't, I can't gauge time. can't gauge. Like people will be like, this year, my favorite. I'd be like, I don't know. I got to, like you said, I got to see a picture or something.

Marcus (01:38:06.449)
I can engage in 2013 or 2015.

Marcus (01:38:15.247)
Unless I was in, unless I was in like a school or something. That's the best way to say it. Like, unless I was in like.

POD RASHID (01:38:22.916)
Exactly. I mean, it has to be some superstructure where you like, that's what I was doing. But as far as like you say your free time, I'm like, man, I don't know. Like I was, something came out in 2017. I was just like, it was really that eight years ago. And then I had to think about, was like, so we was Kenji Lamar's album. Damn. Came out 17.

Marcus (01:38:49.933)
What was that? What was that?

POD RASHID (01:38:53.994)
2017 that means it was eight years ago bro we were 24

Marcus (01:38:58.683)
That don't even make sense. That don't make sense. That don't make sense. That doesn't make sense. See, that's what I'm talking about. See, it don't be everything. It's stuff like that. I'm like, that's not true. Like not to my body, not to my physiological.

POD RASHID (01:39:00.004)
That don't make sense. That don't make sense. That's what I'm saying.

POD RASHID (01:39:11.418)
Like we were like.

POD RASHID (01:39:15.782)
It just feels fake.

Marcus (01:39:18.575)
doesn't.

Like we're talking about, we're talking about like be humble, DNA, loyalty. I listened to it like it was made three years ago.

POD RASHID (01:39:21.466)
My-

POD RASHID (01:39:27.194)
They still, listen, I still listen to it like it has an effect on me.

Like it's new.

Marcus (01:39:37.466)
Right.

POD RASHID (01:39:41.574)
I was 24, bro. We're going on 10 years.

Marcus (01:39:47.995)
I don't know how people make sense of this shit.

Marcus (01:39:54.169)
Y'all better than me.

POD RASHID (01:39:56.934)
But yeah, the only other thing I was gonna ask, I seen this and I wanted to know how true are what she thinks. She says the brain can store as much info as 20,000 as 20,000 iPhones with 128 gigs.

Marcus (01:40:15.001)
And she's back. Let's do a dismount with Dr. Lauren Flaherty.

I feel like that's a good cutscene. Did I not let her in? I was about to say.

I thought I didn't. And then I was like, what?

Dr. Flaherty (01:40:33.205)
Everything just keeps dying. I'm so sorry. It's like...

POD RASHID (01:40:36.462)
It's okay, it's okay, we're almost done.

Marcus (01:40:38.765)
Yeah, we're almost finished and we can edit all that out. No big deal.

Dr. Flaherty (01:40:42.379)
Okay, all right. Ugh, 40.

Marcus (01:40:44.667)
No, we're gonna let you go here soon. We're gonna let you go.

Dr. Flaherty (01:40:49.405)
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying I apologize.

Marcus (01:40:51.851)
I know. No, I know. It's just, I just said that because you said like an hour and it's been like a

POD RASHID (01:41:00.965)
Yeah.

Marcus (01:41:00.987)
We don't want to take up too much of your time. much appreciated. I know, I know. It happens to me. The first time we were with B-Finds, my computer died. My charger just stopped working. I had to order a new charger. It happens. Y'all love technology.

Dr. Flaherty (01:41:05.987)
Appreciate it.

POD RASHID (01:41:12.518)
Be fine, I'm to you.

Dr. Flaherty (01:41:20.823)
Yeah.

POD RASHID (01:41:23.226)
All right, I got two more just facts I've seen online or facts and I just wanna see how true they are. So it says, research suggests the human retina can transmit data to the brain at roughly 10 million bits per second, which is comparable to an ethernet connection. Is that true?

Dr. Flaherty (01:41:28.205)
superheroes or questions.

Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:41:49.667)
So say it so the brain can basically receive input at a speed as fast as ethernet essentially. mean, yeah, that's true. would say it's faster. It's electricity. Yeah, mean, it truly is electricity, which is why cholesterol is super important for your brain. And we've demonized cholesterol. need it.

Marcus (01:41:57.132)
Yes, essentially.

POD RASHID (01:42:05.872)
Swaffa.

Pratt.

Marcus (01:42:15.971)
Yes.

POD RASHID (01:42:18.96)
So you.

needed to be higher.

Dr. Flaherty (01:42:24.865)
Yeah. Well, it's like, so if we operate based on electricity and chemicals, think about the electrical wires that we have, they're encapsulated with rubber. We don't have rubber, but our connections are encapsulated with something called myelin sheath. And that has to, we require cholesterol to keep that electricity in the circuit that it's supposed to be going in. And so,

Like when people are lowering their cholesterol and taking statins, that's one of the first questions I ask people who are having like a sudden change in memory. I'm like, are you on a statin? Because it's horrible for the brain.

POD RASHID (01:43:08.678)
Hmm, it's good to know.

Um, one last thing for me and then I'll let Marcus finish this up. So I don't know how true this is either says the brain can store as much info as 20,000 iPhones.

Dr. Flaherty (01:43:26.947)
I don't know how to answer that question because I don't know how much an iPhone can store. I don't know how to calculate that.

POD RASHID (01:43:28.933)
Yeah.

Marcus (01:43:33.786)
Didn't they say one time that it was like four terabyte?

thought it was compared to a PlayStation 4 before and they said it was so many terabytes, but I can't.

POD RASHID (01:43:45.284)
It just, I found that interesting.

Dr. Flaherty (01:43:48.009)
I don't really, so I don't know how much an iPhone can store, but I don't really think there's actually a limit on what the brain can store. That's the most beautiful thing about the brain is that it is truly the most complicated machine in the entire universe. It is more complicated than an iPhone. It is more complicated than a computer, than a PlayStation, than any of that. You can't put a limit on it.

If you're looking at somebody's brain, you're looking at their entire existence, everything that they've ever smelled in their life, everything that they've ever seen, every emotion that they've ever felt. you know, it's like, it's not comparable to like, storable data and pictures. There's no, I don't, there's no limit, you know.

Marcus (01:44:38.891)
Makes me like, I don't know why when she was talking, I was thinking of like interstellar women.

POD RASHID (01:44:44.772)
his library brain.

Dr. Flaherty (01:44:47.149)
Mm-hmm.

Marcus (01:44:48.089)
It has no limit, has no boundaries, but crazy.

POD RASHID (01:44:56.364)
And I'm sorry. No, no, was going to say I have one more fact. I know I just said one more. But this is, I feel like this isn't fair. It says the brain isn't fully developed to around 25 or so. But like you said earlier, and I wrote this down, memory and cognitive abilities begin to decline in your late 20s. So we got a five to.

10 year period of peak and that's it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:45:28.643)
Yeah, I mean, that's all true. like, when we say it's not fully formed until 25, what we're talking about is the cortex, the frontal cortex, like the most complicated higher order thought that is not fully formed until 25. That is because a lot of our higher executive order thinking requires experience.

So that can only be accumulated with time. So for you to be able to forecast into the future and associate cause and effect, action and consequence, this and that, you had to have seen it happen in real time and logged it as something meaningful. So that's why, you you've got to be freaking joking. Somebody's just knocking on my door again.

Marcus (01:46:12.952)
Mmm.

POD RASHID (01:46:22.074)
I heard that knock.

Marcus (01:46:23.481)
Yeah, we didn't hear the other two.

Dr. Flaherty (01:46:27.863)
kind of

Marcus (01:46:31.832)
It wasn't us, we're not swatting you. You're good, you're good. I was just messing with you. I was being performative. I being provocative. Get them gone.

POD RASHID (01:46:33.958)
I'm dead for real. I ain't got no more.

Marcus (01:46:52.984)
She's over here liking it. You should have just dropped it all off at the same time.

POD RASHID (01:46:58.368)
Ever!

Marcus (01:46:58.675)
Peace.

POD RASHID (01:47:02.758)
Yesterday when I was delivering, every once in a while I have a package where they have to have a password.

Dr. Flaherty (01:47:06.819)
Or I'm not home. This is why I can't work from home. Okay, so yeah, so that is accumulated through experience. And so that's why we see like teenagers and young adults, they're still making really stupid choices. And evolutionarily speaking, that's kind of what they're supposed to be doing. Because like if you roll back in time, 1000 years ago,

Marcus (01:47:25.591)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Flaherty (01:47:34.307)
A 13 year old boy wasn't playing Xbox. He was training for war, right? He was like, they were pioneering. And so you needed somebody whose development was advanced enough to know how to train for war, but stupid enough to train for war. to, know what I'm saying? And, but that's also the age where

POD RASHID (01:47:56.357)
Right.

Marcus (01:47:56.823)
Okay, yep, exactly.

POD RASHID (01:48:00.08)
So.

Dr. Flaherty (01:48:03.555)
pioneering happens and you know, you have all these great ideas and all that stuff. But yeah, 25 is kind of the consensus where that frontal is fully developed. The memory is what starts to kind of plateau around 30 to 33 and then you'll notice changes. But what I'm saying from my app and from my practice,

is those norms are based off of an average of a population that is chronically sick. So just because the average in our population says that the peak is 30, 33 with cognition, but you're basing it off of a population where morbid obesity is 70 % where inflammation and diabetes and

Marcus (01:49:01.686)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:49:02.561)
All of these things are so prevalent where our food is full of, it's devoid of the nutrients, but it's full of other things our body can't process. So we're a sick population. So I refuse basically to accept that that's just the way that it is. I think that if you treat your brain well and you feed it and you take care of it,

Marcus (01:49:13.59)
Thank

Dr. Flaherty (01:49:31.541)
and you regulate your cortisol and your stress hormones and you get good sleep and you eat from the freaking ground or from the animal, you know, at a local farm or in your backyard or whatever, then I don't think that would necessarily be the case. I don't. I think that's the case for our population. So, yeah.

Marcus (01:49:55.146)
great way to break that down. That's why I hit the farmers market, local farmers markets. then lastly, speaking of that, farmers markets, I turned on, just so happened, I turned on the news this morning. WDRB was explaining that the Greek Fest is this weekend. You going? You going?

Dr. Flaherty (01:50:00.183)
There you go. Yes.

Dr. Flaherty (01:50:15.147)
Yes! Am I going? That's my church. Yes, like...

Marcus (01:50:20.479)
so assumption, so assumption, what's your church?

Dr. Flaherty (01:50:24.907)
That's my church. Yeah, like I'm on the parish council. I'm a chairwoman of stewardship and my kids will be performing like a total of nine performances through Friday and Saturday. Yeah.

Marcus (01:50:32.498)
Okay.

Is it like during the day, evening?

Dr. Flaherty (01:50:43.477)
It's so Friday it starts in the evening goes really late and then Saturday it starts in the morning and then like when I say morning I mean like 11 a.m. And it goes all the way till 11 p.m. So it's like all day Saturday

Marcus (01:50:58.015)
I'm gonna try to get my family out there and stop by.

Dr. Flaherty (01:51:00.835)
Yeah, you should. Seriously, they're expecting, so they have Greek food, Greek dancing and you can take a look at our church and look at all the icons, but they also have vendors that are coming in from Greece and they're selling handmade jewelry and clothing and items and just like really cool, authentic stuff. Good Greek music and...

performances, have contests at nighttime, like for the non-Greek people to participate in some of the fun dancing. And then, yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. They're expecting like 9,000 people this year between Friday and Saturday.

Marcus (01:51:39.701)
Whoa, I did not, I didn't, I didn't not y'all do it like that. gosh.

Dr. Flaherty (01:51:45.781)
It's the biggest, that's the most that we've, like that would be breaking our record. So hopefully it's great.

Marcus (01:51:53.417)
Is the soup you mentioned gonna be there?

Dr. Flaherty (01:51:55.643)
No, that takes six hours. That takes six hours to make. That's like a, that's like a home kitchen, you know, great brother. It is so good.

Marcus (01:52:00.533)
I'm gonna have to...

We're gonna have to pay you for a pot, because I'm gonna need that. I was lucky enough to go to Greece, Athens, 2019, before the pandemic, right before all that. We grew up with, and I know it's not the same, but Lebanese friends. So I grew up kind of with that like food, with that food, you know, culture, but

Dr. Flaherty (01:52:29.443)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Marcus (01:52:34.207)
have to come then and try the food and just FYI I'm not saying that I'm a baklava expert but that New Albany farmers market there's some guy who makes some great baklava so just out there because it's since I don't know maybe I'm a stickler because like I said I grew up around it I'm like whoo some good baklava and change it changed my evening

Dr. Flaherty (01:52:50.739)
my gosh.

Dr. Flaherty (01:53:02.123)
Yes, we'll have that. We'll have that. We'll have other pastries. But no, the the avgo liminal that takes a long time. That's like a I make that every year on Christmas Eve. And yeah, and like, I'll make it once every three months. But it's like, come to my kitchen and let me show you love with this soup type of thing. We can't just feed it to the masses. Yeah.

Marcus (01:53:04.479)
No

Marcus (01:53:15.636)
it's one of them, okay.

Marcus (01:53:26.037)
okay. Okay.

POD RASHID (01:53:29.976)
Is there a recipe online? Like, could I Google it and make it? It ain't going to be the same?

Dr. Flaherty (01:53:36.739)
Mmmmm

Marcus (01:53:36.873)
Look at it. Look at it.

Dr. Flaherty (01:53:41.949)
know if it would if it would actually I have the recipe written down it's like in my my grandmother's actual handwriting and my mom yeah it's not gonna know cuz I'm looking up like I just googled it and I'm looking at the images

Marcus (01:53:51.353)
you're not getting... Yeah.

POD RASHID (01:54:01.701)
It ain't the same.

Marcus (01:54:02.195)
The way she said I'm looking at the images lets me know that she's not finding what she's looking for.

Dr. Flaherty (01:54:02.272)
No.

POD RASHID (01:54:07.75)
You

Dr. Flaherty (01:54:10.241)
No, they're doing, absolutely not. nope. I wouldn't need it, but I'm snobby when I do it, so.

POD RASHID (01:54:15.91)
Okay, just wonder.

Marcus (01:54:18.547)
Alright.

You can't make it online. There's no stronger endorsement, but to go see them in person at the Greek Fest. So we'll definitely try to get out there. It'd be nice to meet you in person. with that being said, just thank you for joining the show. Thank you for opening our minds up, breaking down what you do, how you do it. Thank you for going even beyond that, creating an app.

Dr. Flaherty (01:54:27.255)
Thank you.

Marcus (01:54:48.595)
Being so all inclusive, thinking of everyone, that's bigger than your, even though that's what you do and you study, that's bigger than your career. Thank you for helping out with the community. Like I said, places like Roots 101. And thank you for your time. Time's valuable and you gave us plenty of time. We're only supposed to go an hour. We went twice as long. like literally, if you're promoting, friend D, if you're promoting anything, hit us up.

Dr. Flaherty (01:55:07.907)
Aww.

Marcus (01:55:18.323)
We're gonna do promotion for you all week.

Now just let us know anything we can do and hopefully we'll get out and try to see you this weekend. Very nice to meet you.

Dr. Flaherty (01:55:27.87)
that's so sweet. Thank you guys so much. That really means a lot. That seemed very genuine and I really appreciate that. Thank you for letting me come on here.

Marcus (01:55:36.403)
No, definitely. And anytime too. You hop back on, something new happens, you just wanna say something. It doesn't have to be long, it can be short. It doesn't have to be anything. We have fun, whatever it is, just let us know. And let us know what we can... Yeah, you and the iCast community now, and like I said, hit us up any way we can help you, because you're helping us.

POD RASHID (01:55:37.958)
problem.

POD RASHID (01:55:51.385)
You're in the iCast community now.

Dr. Flaherty (01:55:51.405)
Okay.

Dr. Flaherty (01:56:00.163)
Absolutely, I appreciate it and I would be more than willing to help you guys combat man with fear stuff. So

POD RASHID (01:56:07.078)
You're okay.

Marcus (01:56:07.215)
okay. Okay. Maybe just do something small where we just chime in for like 15 minutes and be like, shoot this down for us. Snipe this down. We're going to give you the sniper. You just shoot this down. Please do.

POD RASHID (01:56:14.469)
Yeah.

POD RASHID (01:56:18.822)
Yeah.

Dr. Flaherty (01:56:21.227)
Yes, there's so many facts that in stats that just completely debunk like the majority of what they say so it won't be hard. I could do that in my sleep.

Marcus (01:56:32.487)
Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, go enjoy your. go ahead.

POD RASHID (01:56:35.39)
Maybe, was gonna say maybe one time you can come on, just do strictly top five lists. We love our top five lists, so we do that often.

Marcus (01:56:41.179)
Yeah, we love doing that. That's what we're kind of known for. yeah, yeah, go have a weekend. Enjoy Greek Fest and all best wishes to you and friend D.

Dr. Flaherty (01:56:46.944)
Okay, gotcha.

Dr. Flaherty (01:56:55.203)
All right. All right. Thank you guys. Hopefully you guys come and you guys really enjoy it. So I appreciate it. Thank you guys. Bye.

Marcus (01:57:02.96)
Of course. Bye. Bye.

POD RASHID (01:57:03.44)
Thank you.